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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those commenting on why Microsoft is being so .NET-centered these days might wish to read this article: http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/archives/210 .

It focuses mainly on the transition to ARM-based netbooks, but could generally be the primary reason MS wants application programmers to migrate to .NET rather than traditional native code, to take .NET to the same portability as Java and therefore aiding a future Windows transition to non-x86 hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those commenting on why Microsoft is being so .NET-centered these days might wish to read this article: <a href="http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/archives/210" rel="nofollow">http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/archives/210</a> .</p>
<p>It focuses mainly on the transition to ARM-based netbooks, but could generally be the primary reason MS wants application programmers to migrate to .NET rather than traditional native code, to take .NET to the same portability as Java and therefore aiding a future Windows transition to non-x86 hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhaskar</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhaskar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milkweed  --

What is it about software written in the 1980s, and evolved through the years, that makes it inferior to software written in the 2000s?  Does the functionality of VistA make the physician less effective or less efficient?

Take a look at http://worldvista.org sometime, and also at the hardhats list at http://groups.google.com/group/hardhats

Regards
-- Bhaskar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milkweed  &#8211;</p>
<p>What is it about software written in the 1980s, and evolved through the years, that makes it inferior to software written in the 2000s?  Does the functionality of VistA make the physician less effective or less efficient?</p>
<p>Take a look at <a href="http://worldvista.org" rel="nofollow">http://worldvista.org</a> sometime, and also at the hardhats list at <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/hardhats" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/hardhats</a></p>
<p>Regards<br />
&#8211; Bhaskar</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milkweed: You´re alone on this, maybe because you like some silverlight effects flying from your screen (note: this is very important to patient´s care).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milkweed: You´re alone on this, maybe because you like some silverlight effects flying from your screen (note: this is very important to patient´s care).</p>
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		<title>By: Milkweed</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Milkweed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bhaskar...I am a physician working in the VA system. I also program in .net. Certainly the VAs informatics back bone &quot;VISTA&quot; is impressive...for the 1980s. If you have ever actually used this application you would know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bhaskar&#8230;I am a physician working in the VA system. I also program in .net. Certainly the VAs informatics back bone &#8220;VISTA&#8221; is impressive&#8230;for the 1980s. If you have ever actually used this application you would know.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhaskar</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhaskar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is rumored that the M in XML stands for MUMPS!  8-)

MUMPS is the most widely used language for implementing health care applications including the EHR system behind the most successful health care delivery network in the US (check out Phil Longman&#039;s &quot;The Best Care Anywhere).  GT.M (http://fis-gtm.com), an implementation of MUMPS, is the legal system of record for tens of millions of bank accounts around the world, including the largest real-time core system in daily production use at any bank anywhere in the world.  The x86 Linux implementation can be downloaded as FOSS from Source Forge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm) and is routinely in the top 1-2% of projects by activity.

With so much success behind it, MUMPS surely has a foot in the grave already!

-- Bhaskar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is rumored that the M in XML stands for MUMPS!  <img src='http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>MUMPS is the most widely used language for implementing health care applications including the EHR system behind the most successful health care delivery network in the US (check out Phil Longman&#8217;s &#8220;The Best Care Anywhere).  GT.M (<a href="http://fis-gtm.com" rel="nofollow">http://fis-gtm.com</a>), an implementation of MUMPS, is the legal system of record for tens of millions of bank accounts around the world, including the largest real-time core system in daily production use at any bank anywhere in the world.  The x86 Linux implementation can be downloaded as FOSS from Source Forge (<a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm</a>) and is routinely in the top 1-2% of projects by activity.</p>
<p>With so much success behind it, MUMPS surely has a foot in the grave already!</p>
<p>&#8211; Bhaskar</p>
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		<title>By: oir</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>oir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget it all.

After 7 years of .NET I am going back to C++ which is evolving with best engineering minds on the planet.. this CLR stuff is by now for kids only.

Tied in and locked-in into Windows and SQL, enough to bring down the few and odd systems they run on the Web, stock exchanges.. all just runtime and .NET bloat really, and nothing to boast about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget it all.</p>
<p>After 7 years of .NET I am going back to C++ which is evolving with best engineering minds on the planet.. this CLR stuff is by now for kids only.</p>
<p>Tied in and locked-in into Windows and SQL, enough to bring down the few and odd systems they run on the Web, stock exchanges.. all just runtime and .NET bloat really, and nothing to boast about.</p>
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		<title>By: JSW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JulianS-  Do some more reading up on Mumps, and rely less on MS marketing for your information.

Firstly-XAML is a MS convention. Mumps certainly does support XML, both native in Cache or with third party extensions.  XAML is used to define UI elements. Again, we have that with XML.  Read further down if you REALLY want XAML support.

And I love market speak such as &quot;Service Oriented Strategy&quot;.  Okay, I&#039;ll write my MUMPS apps as services, no problem.

LINQ and WCF, huh?  MUMPS/Cache does SQL/ODBC/JDBC/SOAP/XML is OOP and callable from C/.NET/C++/JAVA and can also embed calls from these languages.  XAML in .NET anyone?. Again, in other implementations you may or may not need third party, typically OSF, extensions.

Performance.  Check out Krung Thai Bank.  How about ViSTA.  Or any one of the number of EMR and Financial applications processing millions of transactions of data a year.  They aren&#039;t being run on MSSQL!!!

Please do not dismiss a strong, mature language such as MUMPS because you know nothing about it.  Just as I will not dismiss MS&#039;s entry, as soon as they change the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JulianS-  Do some more reading up on Mumps, and rely less on MS marketing for your information.</p>
<p>Firstly-XAML is a MS convention. Mumps certainly does support XML, both native in Cache or with third party extensions.  XAML is used to define UI elements. Again, we have that with XML.  Read further down if you REALLY want XAML support.</p>
<p>And I love market speak such as &#8220;Service Oriented Strategy&#8221;.  Okay, I&#8217;ll write my MUMPS apps as services, no problem.</p>
<p>LINQ and WCF, huh?  MUMPS/Cache does SQL/ODBC/JDBC/SOAP/XML is OOP and callable from C/.NET/C++/JAVA and can also embed calls from these languages.  XAML in .NET anyone?. Again, in other implementations you may or may not need third party, typically OSF, extensions.</p>
<p>Performance.  Check out Krung Thai Bank.  How about ViSTA.  Or any one of the number of EMR and Financial applications processing millions of transactions of data a year.  They aren&#8217;t being run on MSSQL!!!</p>
<p>Please do not dismiss a strong, mature language such as MUMPS because you know nothing about it.  Just as I will not dismiss MS&#8217;s entry, as soon as they change the name.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almost .NET development completed, MS simply en cash the money for introducing new languages, OS, and new databases and also simply change the machine or upgrade to existing machine.

once release the software, span of few months (not less than 3 months) releases the patches or service packs.  This means people to know the quality of software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almost .NET development completed, MS simply en cash the money for introducing new languages, OS, and new databases and also simply change the machine or upgrade to existing machine.</p>
<p>once release the software, span of few months (not less than 3 months) releases the patches or service packs.  This means people to know the quality of software.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>julianS: It´s stange that those who really demands high scale internet distributed database doesn´t like your MSSQL or Oracle relational exhausted model. I´m talking about Google Big Table and Amazon SimpleDB. They are schemaless, multi-dimensional db models, just like MUMPS. Sorry to say to you: we´re back !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>julianS: It´s stange that those who really demands high scale internet distributed database doesn´t like your MSSQL or Oracle relational exhausted model. I´m talking about Google Big Table and Amazon SimpleDB. They are schemaless, multi-dimensional db models, just like MUMPS. Sorry to say to you: we´re back !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Johnson</title>
		<link>http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2008/10/11/microsofts-new-m-programming-language/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t think Microsoft would invest resources in something that would not be lucrative, so let&#039;s see &#039;M&#039; after it is released and how it can help developers out. So far, the Visual Studio platform and its languages have been great for programmers in many ways, let&#039;s see how &#039;M&#039; does, over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think Microsoft would invest resources in something that would not be lucrative, so let&#8217;s see &#8216;M&#8217; after it is released and how it can help developers out. So far, the Visual Studio platform and its languages have been great for programmers in many ways, let&#8217;s see how &#8216;M&#8217; does, over time.</p>
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