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	<title>Comments on: The Definition of &#8220;Firmware&#8221;, According To The iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony told me about the product name. He has what he describes as &quot;a very reliable source&quot; regarding Apple insider info, but getting him to name it isn&#039;t going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony told me about the product name. He has what he describes as &#8220;a very reliable source&#8221; regarding Apple insider info, but getting him to name it isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: nilges</title>
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		<dc:creator>nilges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, speaking of Wind, what&#039;s your source for them having a product by that codename? It sounds like something I might&#039;ve heard before, but all Google turns up are references to my afforementioned MSI product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, speaking of Wind, what&#8217;s your source for them having a product by that codename? It sounds like something I might&#8217;ve heard before, but all Google turns up are references to my afforementioned MSI product.</p>
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		<title>By: nilges</title>
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		<dc:creator>nilges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think it&#039;s conceptual. Any device that should just work, like your (smart) toaster or your flat-screen television, you don&#039;t want to think of as booting up into an OS, though they probably do. Phones started out as analog devices, and older mobile phones did have nothing but firmware. That, and Apple wants to reinforce that developers are not to tread in any area considered essential to the proper functioning of the phone.

Stealing the name of the foremost hackintosh platform (MSI Wind netbook, on which I presently type, perversely but quite functionally connected to a 1920x1200 LCD thru VGA), now that&#039;s either a nod or a sign of some deeper affinity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think it&#8217;s conceptual. Any device that should just work, like your (smart) toaster or your flat-screen television, you don&#8217;t want to think of as booting up into an OS, though they probably do. Phones started out as analog devices, and older mobile phones did have nothing but firmware. That, and Apple wants to reinforce that developers are not to tread in any area considered essential to the proper functioning of the phone.</p>
<p>Stealing the name of the foremost hackintosh platform (MSI Wind netbook, on which I presently type, perversely but quite functionally connected to a 1920&#215;1200 LCD thru VGA), now that&#8217;s either a nod or a sign of some deeper affinity.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone 3Gs CZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhone 3Gs CZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess that the definition comes from the mobile world - in mobile world, all phones have just one system. You cannot have device without system with firmware only, you cannot use a different system on the same device etc. So theoreticaly you are right and there are two systems, but practicaly there is only one and e.g. upgrading one you upgrade the other as well. P.S.: and btw it is mostly known as iPhone OS (3.0), not firmware</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess that the definition comes from the mobile world &#8211; in mobile world, all phones have just one system. You cannot have device without system with firmware only, you cannot use a different system on the same device etc. So theoreticaly you are right and there are two systems, but practicaly there is only one and e.g. upgrading one you upgrade the other as well. P.S.: and btw it is mostly known as iPhone OS (3.0), not firmware</p>
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